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 Scenario: "Rise of Nation"
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| mrWHO |
Posted on 06-10-2005 14:09
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I played a "Battle at Samar" in Ship duel 10 minutes ago and I must say that I'm so impresse that I begun to create my own scenario: Name: "Rise of Nation" Sides: ITN (with small Armada support) vs HGN (and Allieds) Background: New North-Eastern front is about to open, to ruin enemy morale, ITN begun mutiple raids against military,supply,trade and civilian convoys (if you travel through warzone, you're asking youself for a bullet). Your taskforce is assigned to border sector 34 of ...(insert a name of north HGN allied nation). Armada 34th recon cavalry unit picked up a ...(allied name) mineral convoy escorted by military units. Your primary orders are to destroy those freighters, but destruction of whole convoy would dig up the enemy morale. You'll get a support from 34th recon and you're a CO of this operation, so use the lives of those dogs at will. You're departing at 9:30 AM galactic standard time. Do not fail the Empire. |
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| Thorin |
Posted on 06-10-2005 14:27
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This actually belongs here. Don't worry, that's for future reference. Pretty interesting. Only one thing: that would be 930 military time. Also...what do you suppose Vaygr standard is based off of? I suppose the same question could be posed for the Taiidani and any other race that is largely unbound. |
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| mrWHO |
Posted on 06-10-2005 14:45
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Posts: 485 Joined: September 02 2005 |
Well, it's a proposition, not an offical scenario that's why I posted it here. However I think that Tel will crucify me for posting stuff at wrong forum  Anyway here a the few of initial screenshots, I also plan to make a trailer base on this battle: http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1442...io17zo.jpg http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/18...io26hy.jpg http://img313.imageshack.us/img313/16...on30im.jpg |
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| Thorin |
Posted on 06-10-2005 14:50
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Well, so ya know...there aren't many Nalthoran cruisers floating around right now. If they are Hiigaran allies, they might be using Hiigaran designs, like the ever-successful Hiigaran merchant cruiser, escorted by bulk carriers and escort combatants, like Heralds and smaller cruisers. EDIT: Oh, and the CVE. I feel silly forgetting about those little rays of sunshine. EDIT2: Oh yeah. I forgot, as well, to commend you for actually bringing your suggestion passed the idea phase and into the development phase. Sleepless is not the way to be. 
Edited by Thorin on 06-10-2005 14:53 |
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| mrWHO |
Posted on 06-10-2005 14:55
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CVE, CVE, it wouldn't be a convoy if there wouldn't be any CVE near  The scenario is still in initial phase. http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/65...io44it.jpg |
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| Thorin |
Posted on 06-10-2005 14:58
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Ought to be really interesting to see how this plays out. I'd say a compliment of fighters for a CVE would be a combination of one or two squadrons of light or heavy strike fighters, with the other three to four wings in the hangar being interceptors. |
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| mrWHO |
Posted on 06-10-2005 15:02
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I forgot to add that a number of SC will be chained to hangar size of all ships per side (with exeption of khopesh and Lavi that have a HS) For example that BCR in background have two wings of Blades as escort. Edited by mrWHO on 06-10-2005 15:02 |
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| Thorin |
Posted on 06-10-2005 15:13
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Oh, very neat. Khopesh and Lavi would be an unlikely light in a convoy unless there are bulk carriers, which have hangars big enough to service them. They may not require carrier craft for hyperspace, but the crew spaces aren't designed for escort or patrol duty, and thus probably don't have anything more than emergency rations and no sleeping quarters to speak of. EDIT: Huh. This sounds like fun from either prospective. Maybe you could make a multiplayer version, where one is the convoy and the other commands the raiders? Edited by Thorin on 06-10-2005 15:20 |
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| mrWHO |
Posted on 06-10-2005 15:29
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Hmm, why not, after I'll finish this scenario, I'll gonna need someone to check it in MP with me. about Lavi & Khopesh- those are a frontline ship, not a backwater escort ships, so I think it will be 1 or 2 of them max (they head in the same way as convoy??). Attackers- Advance stuff, smaller in numbers. Defenders- more stuff, but mostly escort and low tech stuff (BCR will be the heaviest). Edit: 
Edited by mrWHO on 06-10-2005 16:14 |
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| mrWHO |
Posted on 06-10-2005 16:13
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Attacking force defined: Taidans: 2x QJE, each: *2x Shamshir A *2x Shamshir B *1x Shamshir F Armadas 34th Recon cavalry: 1x Kaghan: *1x Scout *2x LAC II *2x Saracen 2x Spahi 1x Scout/Flotilla Leader Frigate |
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| Minime |
Posted on 06-10-2005 17:44
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this might not be the right area to go to, but what about making those 'carrier frigates' that have been talked about so much into Carrier Escort Frigates, You would use them to help resupply and refresh the crews from Corvettes. its likly that they would be just the right size to supply say one at a time? the Khopesh could dock and then the crewers would be able to get a good meal/shower/sleep, whatever the case might be. You could also rotate thru the corvettes in the conovy so that you could have 2 squads of Khopesh or just one Lavi, and a Khopesh in a convoy. Exsample: you could have one or two of the escort carrier frigates (what would the designation be for that?) and they would rotate thru the corvettes in the convoy allowing the crews to not be cramped in there ships for days or weeks, or for however long there trip is, im not sure which Frigate would be best, but im acctually thinking a moddified linebacker would be interesting you took off that extra added section below the main body the old defense field array arms could be used too but im not sure how. EDIT: i realized that they would be more like replenishment ships rather then true carriers, though if that changes there likly hood any. I would help if i could by acctually messing with some of the Higgy frigates to get a concept out but I dont know how nor have any software like Maya or the like. So i understand if this is turned down. Though i do have to say i am very interested in this Scenario, im a big WWII person, so i take interest in things that seem like that or that are moddled after a WWII battle, such as Tels scenario. Edited by Minime on 06-10-2005 18:51 "No expantion without equilibrium.
No conquest without control. Pursue success in serenity. and service the tau'va." Said by, Shas'o T'au Shi'ur, Commander of the Fifth Ten-Cadre |
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| TelQuessir |
Posted on 07-10-2005 02:09
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This is an excellent, well organised tactical battle concept. Since this thread contains good constructive input, I am moving it to the Scenarios/Campaigns forum. See you there. |
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| mrWHO |
Posted on 07-10-2005 12:32
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Well, after finishing this scenario, I have something bigger in mind. ITN campaign (based on same mode as Vaygr Campaign) where you will be a captain of one QJE ( ITNS "Heretic" ) and it's CT group (with Vay support in some missions). So far I have a few ideas for further scenarios: 1) "Rise of nation"- convoy raid (in progress) - outpost/Asteroids mines raids - supporting of Vayg attack group - Clash of titans (Alliance is sending it's elite ship to deal with you, something like Hood and Bicmarck) - deep space ambush (but you're the prey, mwahaha) - answering to dissters call from Armada cargo depot. - attack during (your) resupply. Edit: Final Defenders config: 3x MCS 1x Nalthor BCR * 2x Blade 2x CVE,each: *1x Blade *1x Thunderbolt I *1x Hawk *1x Gladius 1x khopesh 1x Lavi 1x Arbiter CGE 3x Bloodhounds 3x Hydra IV 1x Nightgale 1x Herald 1x Linebreaker Edited by mrWHO on 07-10-2005 16:28 |
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| MarieHawke |
Posted on 07-10-2005 16:27
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Sounds like a very fun mission! Also, no, I'm not driving the Heretic. CHV-05 Scharnhost for me =D A starlight sharpshot magical girl!
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| mrWHO |
Posted on 07-10-2005 16:34
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Final layout of convoy fleet: Scenario finished with two QJE with red health bars, nothing more survived .I'll try to attach file. Put it to Duel folder. If you will have a CTD try to go to "ship file' and rename "vgr_shamshiriictgold" to "vgr_shamshiriictg_old" EDIT: Shit, no effect, I'll ask Homeboy about attaching problem. Edited by mrWHO on 07-10-2005 16:35 |
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| mrWHO |
Posted on 07-10-2005 16:41
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Attachement attempt number two. Edit: Succesful !!! Hints: Defenders have more SC and frigates(much more) so use a raw firepower of your QJE and cover you sistership, use Vaygrs to draw fire from your main fleet. And Keep you CT near and alive, if you lost them before you destroy enemy frigates... you're dead meat. Ohh, you holed in BCR long ago, didn't you ? EDIT2: I need 33mb of host space for cool battle records, anyone interested??
mrWHO attached the following file:
Edited by mrWHO on 07-10-2005 23:43 |
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| TelQuessir |
Posted on 08-10-2005 15:32
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Use filefront for large file hosting. I will test this out on Monday. I predict that it will be as good as it sounds here  |
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| Sun Tzu |
Posted on 23-12-2005 15:20
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1) Mr Who, would you mind if I play a bit with your scenario, ie stuff it with SP mission scripts? I'd like to use it as a test for various scripts incl. AI behavior. 2) Assuming point 1 is ok, does anybody have any ideas about how they would handle defense on the Hiigaran side? I'm looking for a few different defensive strategies and try to implement them as AI play. |
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| Sun Tzu |
Posted on 08-01-2006 13:53
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Posts: 528 Joined: September 08 2005 |
*bump* Here's the converted scenario (not finished but playable): http://files.filefront.com/RoN_080120...einfo.html Any feedback appreciated. PS and if anybody can tell me what's wrong with the above url tags, I'll be very thankful :confused: Edited by Sun Tzu on 08-01-2006 14:03 |
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