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 Reactor modernisation initiative (RMI)
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| MarieHawke |
Posted on 25-11-2005 04:23
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141 to 146 neutrons, actually.  (235/236/238)(NEWPAGEACTIVATE) Edited by MarieHawke on 25-11-2005 05:20 A starlight sharpshot magical girl!
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| TelQuessir |
Posted on 25-11-2005 06:14
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Quote Could be just as interesting to collect the solar flairs that spike up. that's bascially ionised hydrogen (aka plasma I believe), easily decharged and changed to over active hydrogen. But beware of electrical system damage I read about a Bussard Collector ship on the Orbiter forums. This would make for an interesting support ship designed to gather hydrogen from solar flares and suitable gas giants (although aerobraking to do that is tricky but our propulsion and materials technology in this universe would counteract that nicely). |
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| Itharu |
Posted on 25-11-2005 13:34
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Quote TelQuessir wrote: I read about a Bussard Collector ship on the Orbiter forums. This would make for an interesting support ship designed to gather hydrogen from solar flares and suitable gas giants (although aerobraking to do that is tricky but our propulsion and materials technology in this universe would counteract that nicely). Aerobreaking isn't too difficult, it becomes a matter of friction, angles and velocity which would easily be handled by a ships computer in the HW2 verse. I would go as far to even say that remote ships would be doing the aerobreaking while a large 'refinery' type sits above the plant to sort out the gasses collected. -Fear the Might of the Imperial Cortharian Fleet
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| Glacialis |
Posted on 25-11-2005 14:25
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That's how it's done in the Night's Dawn trilogy, aye. Oh and re: Bussard ramscoop/collector  you know those orangey-red caps on the engine nacelles of Star Trek ships? Those are the hydrogen collectors for the impulse/fusion drive.  |
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| Itharu |
Posted on 25-11-2005 20:30
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I known about those. They can also steam hydrogen, but you have to consider that space is a vaccume and drifting particles such as hyrdrogen are very few and far between reagardless of their principality in making up the universe. It would be futile for a ship to sit in space and just try to collect hyrdogen. But this is going from reactor/powergrid redesign to fuel mining. So i wonder if the issue of capital ship power grid overhaul is complete or not. -Fear the Might of the Imperial Cortharian Fleet
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| Glacialis |
Posted on 26-11-2005 04:47
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I think it is. As to hydrogen mining I was thinking of small ramscoop-equipped robotic craft for gas giants, and otherwise we're looking at nebulas and relatively close to a star. Of course, fuel stations are still going to be your best bet for the sake of convenience. |
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| Nemmerle |
Posted on 26-11-2005 16:20
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I suppose you could always drop one end of a (very small) wormhole into a star and use that, provided you've the tech base of course.
Edited by Nemmerle on 26-11-2005 16:21 |
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| Inert |
Posted on 26-11-2005 18:03
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Not possible to drop a wormhole into a star. I think nebulas are your best bet for hydrogen mining. |
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| Nemmerle |
Posted on 26-11-2005 18:26
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Quote Inert wrote: Not possible to drop a wormhole into a star. I see no reason why not. Blackholes eat stars so to speak and a wormhole is but a more complex manipulation of the same principle. Edited by Nemmerle on 26-11-2005 18:28 |
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| Inert |
Posted on 26-11-2005 22:11
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Nemmerle, in order to create your wormhole, taking your definition that it is a complex manipulation of a blackhole, you'd need a black hole and control over it. As far as I know, no race in the homeworld series has such advanced technology. Now, as far as wormhole technology in homeworld, you'd need to charge two quantum plates with a hole in between them. Things that enter this hole instananeously appear on the other side, regardless of distance. Now, as I've said before, it is not possible to drop a wormhole into a star. |
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| Nemmerle |
Posted on 26-11-2005 23:40
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It's perfectly possible to drop a wormhole into a star, whether you could get away with dropping the wormhole generator into the star is a different matter. However with sufficiently advanced technology, as I've said before, it is perfectly possible to drop a wormhole into a star. You could probably manage it with the homeworld technology. In order for the QP technique to work the event horizon of the wormhole must be situated a considerable distance from the 'quantum plate' (whatever the hell that is) Assuming that the quantum plate is a physical construct you can stick the charging mechanism inside it and drop the thing in the star quite happily safe in the knowledge that it's never actually going to come into contact with the star. |
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| Inert |
Posted on 27-11-2005 00:26
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Nemmerle I do not understand your paragraph: "You could probably manage it with the homeworld technology. In order for the QP technique to work the event horizon of the wormhole must be situated a considerable distance from the 'quantum plate' (whatever the hell that is) Assuming that the quantum plate is a physical construct you can stick the charging mechanism inside it and drop the thing in the star quite happily safe in the knowledge that it's never actually going to come into contact with the star." |
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| Itharu |
Posted on 27-11-2005 00:28
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There are implcaitions of dealting with the universe's most advanced particle generator and also the largest fusion reactor immaginable. First, if you were to pull hot fusing plasma from the the sun, it would be quite hot and un manageable. Not to mention probably somewhat explosive as well. It would undergo a type of decompression. Second, you would end up throwing the star off in a way. It's already at a volitile equilibrium and a sudden change in density, mass and balance could have some negative effects. I would not edorse something as wreckles as mining a sun for hydrogen. Far easier to stick with feeding off gas giants which are numberous in solar systems. If you were really up for a challenge however, think of a method to extract the liquid and solid hyrdogen that's theorised to exist deep inside a gas giant. -Fear the Might of the Imperial Cortharian Fleet
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| Nemmerle |
Posted on 28-11-2005 08:22
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Quote Inert wrote: Nemmerle I do not understand your paragraph: "You could probably manage it with the homeworld technology. The task of placing a wormhole within a star. Quote Nemmerle wrote:In order for the QP technique to work the event horizon of the wormhole must be situated a considerable distance from the 'quantum plate' (whatever the hell that is) If the area through which the substance must pass in order to be transmitted to the other plate was not a distance away from the surface of the plate the system could not work. Quote Nemmerle wrote:Assuming that the quantum plate is a physical construct you can stick the charging mechanism inside it and drop the thing in the star Assuming the object exists in three dimensions, though if you had the capability to construct something purely in two it can be argued that you would probably have the capability to do so anyway. Quote Nemmerle wrote: quite happily safe in the knowledge that it's never actually going to come into contact with the star." As the plate never actually touches the star there shouldn't be any problem in placing it within the star. |
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| Inert |
Posted on 28-11-2005 23:24
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How will you place this physical construct inside a star without it burning up? |
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