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PDS 7.2 polishing effort
Inert	#21 Posted on 31-03-2006 00:12
Posts: 388 Joined: September 08 2005	I intend to alter the button colors.... but I'm having quite the goose chase searching what files do that...


Sun Tzu	#22 Posted on 31-03-2006 10:03
Posts: 528 Joined: September 08 2005	Colours are defined in each screen .lua files, most often by reference to pre-defined colours set up in hw2styles.lua (data/ui/newui/styles/ dir). Button colours are graphic files (same dir). If you change the current graphic files, I guess that will affect all of the UI graphical elements, up to ingame menus and taskbars. So that looks like a huge project. Edited by Sun Tzu on 31-03-2006 10:08


TelQuessir	#23 Posted on 02-04-2006 06:38
Posts: 2598 Joined: August 30 2005	I say you, SunTzu, is the perfect choice to lead the effort to make AS 7.6 into a proper total conversion complete with RTS mode gameplay (right now it only offers Harpoon style tactical warfare but no grand campaign)


Sun Tzu	#24 Posted on 02-04-2006 11:46
Posts: 528 Joined: September 08 2005	Thanks, but perhaps I should wait to finish this project with 7.2 before starting a new one Updated menu attached (and put on Filefront) with: - SP scenario list and thumbnails - ingame menu for scenarios [edit: this replaces the previous one] A couple of things remain to be done in the area (except the graphical part Inert is dealing with): - complete/update the general information screen - transformation of the useless 'patch info' menu into an information menu with an intriductory brief about the PDS universe (post-invasion era, Nalthor, IVF, Federation of Cush and so on), provided that somebody with writing talents would like to write the fluff Sun Tzu attached the following file: Main and credit menus v2[141].rar [966.02kB / 331 Downloads] Edited by Sun Tzu on 02-04-2006 15:02


TelQuessir	#25 Posted on 02-04-2006 23:58
Posts: 2598 Joined: August 30 2005	I've got here a 13,000 word world setting manual/RP novella for PDS-AS. I'm sure you can glean a lot of ideas from it. Hopefully I will be able to get it up tomorrow. Or later today.


Sun Tzu	#26 Posted on 03-04-2006 09:05
Posts: 528 Joined: September 08 2005	A manual! great! Re graphics, here is the proof that loading screens and main menu screens can be different, and that it is possible to have different available screens randomly loaded each time you're seing it: http://files.filefront.com/loading_sc...einfo.html


Sun Tzu	#27 Posted on 16-04-2006 00:25
Posts: 528 Joined: September 08 2005	Little update: - It took me days to learn how to turn a ship screenshot into a more or less decent HW2 style icon, but now I can do each of them in 20 min or so, so we'll be on schedule with them. Example below. - Autodock script has been rewritten to be more efficient. - If somebody has the hodding skills to fix the bugs on the auxiliary carrier (inverted badge) and the nalthor bcr (inverted lighting), he'd be more than welcome to help - I hope to release next week a SP-converted test scenario. Sun Tzu attached the following image:


Sun Tzu	#28 Posted on 16-04-2006 00:27
Posts: 528 Joined: September 08 2005	Triple posting, yay! My excuse for this one is the one attachment per post limitation. Sun Tzu attached the following image:


Thorin	#29 Posted on 16-04-2006 01:09
Posts: 414 Joined: September 02 2005	Uh...that was supposed to go on his shirt. Someone get the bactine. Seriously, though, nice job.


Sun Tzu	#30 Posted on 16-04-2006 19:13
Posts: 528 Joined: September 08 2005	Thanks. Nearly all missing or sketchy icons are made or replaced now; time of rescaling and mapping is near at hand. A few examples below. Sun Tzu attached the following image: Edited by Sun Tzu on 16-04-2006 19:13


Thorin	#31 Posted on 16-04-2006 19:45
Posts: 414 Joined: September 02 2005	Those are fantastic! Simply fantastic.


Sun Tzu	#32 Posted on 17-04-2006 14:51
Posts: 528 Joined: September 08 2005	Thanks, but that's just basic photoshop stuff. Nothing close to the awesome marquess icon that was done before. A few words about what I am planning for campaign redesign: - it will remain the Ascension campaign: Hiigara defense against Makaan culminating in major engagements in the Homeworld skies and at the center core of the galaxy - the storyline point of view will be a not-so-senior 15th Fleet officer, rather than Karan S'jet, with hopefully some dynamic elements (such as achievements in level N influencing the responsibilities given in level N+1 or back-up mission N' if you fail N) - the missions will be altered to a larger extent than what was done in earlier versions of PDS, however putting together mission scripts is a -long- process so don't expect too much - getting overambitious would lead nowhere - the primary objective is to correct the inconsistencies of the first three missions (such as in m01 an utterly important base like Tanis being defended by collectors or, in m02, Vaygr sending just commerce raiders to Angel Moon whereas they just spotted the main asset of HGN fleet in the sector) and make them more of a challenge. I've not made much work on those points yet, so everything is open to discussions, contributions and changes.


yasotay	#33 Posted on 18-04-2006 04:23
Posts: 637 Joined: September 09 2005	Sun Tzu - I must second Thorin on the superior work. Well done sir. Very much looking forward to the final work. Agree that overwhelming oneself with ambition has led to the demise of many a good effort.


TelQuessir	#34 Posted on 19-04-2006 04:57
Posts: 2598 Joined: August 30 2005	The key is to keep it simple so you can get a package deployed. Fast. That will let you know whether to continue, or not. In my opinion continuous updates are preferable to withholding until the 100% line - since this after all is a non-commercial project. Those icons, by the way, are first-rate.


Inert	#35 Posted on 19-04-2006 06:03
Posts: 388 Joined: September 08 2005	It's not so much the point of making icons that is hard, but actually being able to put them in-game, Sun. Nice work, nonetheless. edit: update on menu stuff. The font/positioning of the font can be altered afterwards. Inert attached the following image: Edited by Inert on 19-04-2006 06:43


TelQuessir	#36 Posted on 19-04-2006 11:25
Posts: 2598 Joined: August 30 2005	With that kind of font we're probably discussing swords and sorcery instead of science and laser guns


Sun Tzu	#37 Posted on 19-04-2006 15:40
Posts: 528 Joined: September 08 2005	I love the flare and transparent map. Very nice additions. I agree with Tel about the font. Re Icon mapping. I've done a test with a single tga file that was satisfactory. A complete mapping with an all-inclusive rot/dds file is on my today agenda. If it ends up in a screen-head-banging happening, you'll be the first to know What I've done so far is rescaling the icons in the four resolutions used in Relic scripts (800, 1024, 1280 and 1600) using the same icon sizes as Relic's (3:1 per 64, 82, 102 and 128). As far as I understand, mapping is standardized in 800 coordinates, eliminating the need to re-map in every resolution. Let's hope it works


Theotherguy	#38 Posted on 19-04-2006 17:04
Posts: 16 Joined: November 22 2005	thank god! I was beginning to lose all hope that 7.2 would never be continued, but here it is, polishing and balancing, exactley what I was looking for! Instead of complaining endlessley I think I'll put my skills to use and help out this effort by making loadscreens and icons. Sun Tzu, thank you for continuing the project!


Sun Tzu	#39 Posted on 19-04-2006 17:57
Posts: 528 Joined: September 08 2005	Thanks for the encouragement! I think we're done with icons for the moment, until in-game tests and community feedback. For loadscreens, feel free to post work here and discuss with Inert who took responsibility for that part. If that can help I'll upload a template of the relic loadscreens in photoshop format in Filefront when I'm back home. EDIT: template posted there: http://files.filefront.com/Background_2psdzip/;5009530;;/fileinfo.html Edited by Sun Tzu on 20-04-2006 00:40


Sun Tzu	#40 Posted on 20-04-2006 01:12
Posts: 528 Joined: September 08 2005	Icons are ingame Piece of screenshot below. It's a tga file though as the dds conversion somehow messed up the alpha channel. I'll try other tools for conversion :/ Sun Tzu attached the following image:

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